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WoW Where do I Start

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Postby User 586eee5282d07 » Wed May 17, 2017 8:49 pm

Hi cil, you haven't posted in a while hope everything is going well for you.
Take care
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby Jerry (facilitator) » Thu May 18, 2017 10:54 am

Hi Cecelia,

That's fantastic, having an open honest conversation with your husband about your gambling is a really powerful step. It sounds like he is really supportive and is trying his best to understand where you are coming from. It sounds like being open and honest worked out well for you.

Having someone on your side that can help you to build a plan is going to be incredibly helpful.


I look forward to seeing what sorts of strategies the two of you come up with.
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby Cil » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:11 am

5th August 2017
Good Evening Forum
Today I am 154 days clean since I was last active.
Goodness me. Its been a true eye opener.
Sorry that i have not kept my page up to date. I moved house twice (due to settlement being changed in us). Had a shoulder operation (excellent job done).
Changed job location.
I am the coffee/milk person for my GA home group. I love it there every Friday evening i never miss. I stopped seeing my GA Counsellor on a weekly basis. And like here I saw him about 1 month ago. Hes so lovely he was happy to see me. I was happy to see him also.
As a family things are great....a life of living, engaging, enjoying, tired.
I still have my blockers in place, no wages to me it all goes through my husband. Hes become a real gun at paying things.
It is such a crippling addiction.
Ive come to the realisation that time is one thing i can never get back. We are planning a road trip in Mid Sept oh its gonna be kewl fun.
Thank U to the group u are apart of why I am much more clear headed today.
Xx
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby Jerry (facilitator) » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:36 am

That's fantastic news Cecelia,

It is great to hear some success stories. This shows people on here that there is hope.

Gambling addiction can be beaten!
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby Cil » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:19 am

Morning Jerry.
I asked this question 2 weeks ago in my GA home group. I knew alot may be offended but if I couldn't ask the question I felt im not being true to me.
Q: I understand Higher Power. And I have witnessed it in action.
But Following!!
Following to me and my understanding of it feels cult like.
It feels like a way to be.
The part where we hold hands at the end of the meeting and recite the Serenity Pray. Im ok with the pray i love to say it when i am at a low point.
Not sure exactly where im going with this. Just my feeling of following.
I hope i have kinda explained this ok. And anyones insite to my question would be appreciated.

Happy Monday All Xx
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby Jerry (facilitator) » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:52 am

Hi Cecelia,

The 12 step program was developed in the 50's without the aid of modern psychological testing.

There is a clear evidence base that it is a useful tool, but we are unsure what aspects exactly are helpful, and what are not. What is important is that YOU find it helpful.

So take what you find helpful, and ignore anything that feels pointless or "cult like"


Take what works, ignore the rest.
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby jimi68 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:40 am

hello,
Ive never been to ga meetings and I don't know really what happens there
but I thought of something reading your post.
I wonder if GA meetings are modelled on the old alcoholics anonymous program...
I get the feeling alcoholics annonymous started as a christian religeous program where
"'follow me"' (words of jesus) were part of their solution to healing people.
I recon as they realized that not everyone is a Christian believer they still want to help anyone they can ,
so they say
"'believe in a higher power whatever that might mean to you...."'
Following a higher power can simply mean an awareness of forces bigger in the universe that are greater than us
which can help us to feel that its not all on our shoulders alone.(selfism)
There is knowledge in the universe that is GREATER than ourselves.
In principle even an atheist could accept there is something beyond themselves that can be clung onto when we are powerless......
like social responsibily, or love, or survival of the species....

Think of a little lamb following someone.....it will only do that .......if it TRUSTS the thing it FOLLOWS..
so If you don't feel trust...... why would you follow?
Do you believe that higher power has led you to be in that group to learn about yourself?
Were you LOST with gambling not knowing what to do, or how to do, or even if you could do anything about it.....
Did you follow at first not knowing if it would help ( by a leap of faith) and trust in the power of others?
Sounds to me like you did FOLLOW when you needed to.
But as you gain control of your life maybe the need to find answers outside yourself is shrinking
because you are finding the answers within...
Your soul knows the truth.....
as you regain your power....
I CAN DO IT!!!!!! you shout with power!!

"'yes you can."'.........
whispers the quiet voice of the higher power
with happy satisfaction
as he flies off in the wind
looking for his next job
"you know they mostly forget about you...when the job is done....so why do you do it?'"
a little bird says as he flies past the wind....
"'Same reason I feed you"' he replies and laughs....
"'I don't understand "' says the bird....
SSHHHH! says the wind....
"just fly"'
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby Cil » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:47 pm

Good Evening Jimi68
Thank U for your write up.
That has given me such clarity.
You have explained following perfectly and so that it is relevant to me. It just felt weird in me from what I have read/heard/listened to about following.
When i asked my family husband/daughter/sister what is there knowledge of following theres was similar to mine.
I absolutely love......

Your soul knows the truth.....
as you regain your power....
I CAN DO IT!!!!!! you shout with power!!

"'yes you can."'.........
whispers the quiet voice of the higher power 
with happy satisfaction
as he flies off in the wind
looking for his next job.

Thank U Jimi68 Xx
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby Cil » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:42 am

Good Morning GA Support. I would just like to add something my husband asked me.
Why do we keep count of the days we are clean?
We both gave up drugs many many years ago.
We gave up drinking to only having social drinks at family gatherings. Or celebrations.
We gave up cigarettes geez 3 or 4 years ago.
But gambling i have been clean 182 days.
I wasn't counting the days but while in my GA meetings they had noticed i was over 90 days and this is recognised with the 90 day badge.
I know that I can never ever gamble like a non addicted person.
But i walk in the rooms and followers are 765 days clean or 8 years 2 months 2 weeks clean....which in itself is absolutely fantastic!!!
But I find the more I talk about or acknowledge gambling the more I think of......wow that was fun.....and why do i think like that.....and the misery it put me through.
Is keeping it alive in ourselfs from counting the days more harm than good?
I remember being 2 weeks without a cig and always wanting to just grab 1 cig.
After 6 months or so I dont even think about it.
I dont crave any of my past addictions. Im not craving gambling now.
If it wasn't for the count app i still wouldnt know how long i been clean.
Not sure Im very aware of followers who have done massive time. And its encouraging.
I think Im goimg with this post......
Why are people with 5/10/15/20 years up still in meets? I feel like they haven't moved on.
I moved on from drugs/alcohol/cigs i have years up on these addictions.
My original question.
Why do GA followers keep count?
I ask this in this group because if i take it to a meeting i feel like it's a stupid question to ask.
Thanks in advance.
Cii
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Re: WoW Where do I Start

Postby pamela » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:17 am

Thats a really good question..I would say because there is so much stigma attached to gambling and it really is one of the hardest addictions to shed.if you give up ciggies .its well done..give up drugs and its well done..but when people know you gamble its different because of the stigma..I counted my days in the beginning because I gambled for 18 years and I needed that count to remind me of how far I had come....I dont count now..it worked for me to reach milestones but I am 2 years gamble free now..and loving it
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