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give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

What are some strategies when trying to quit or cut down? What works for you?

RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby Chris2 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:34 pm

I self excluded from my local club and it has been a great thing to do. I think it is important to self excluded from any and every venue that makes it easy for you to enter at least in the beginning of your recovery. Most self exclusions are contracts for 3 months but I believe one should tell them to write in the contract to make it for 12 months. That is what I did because you will go through many different mindsets and relapses in your thinking and a habit will take this long to break and replace with new outlook. You will be glad as your finances begin to look so much healthier too.

Popeye I read your post and totally understand. Although I did believe at one stage that I could make money and ofcourse win money back I had lost (which is distorted thinking when you realise the truth); I realised that I was gambling away money I had literally throwing it away and couldnt understand what I was doing and why at one point. I realised I wasnt there cause I needed the money. In your recovery you will learn so much more about yourself like I did. Sometimes its about control, adrenaline, excitement or looking for a high or a feeling of getting away from it all. But like any bad habit it can distort our thinking. The gambling venues and atmosphere promotes a false feel good high that can make you temporarily feel like you are queen or king of your world especially when you have your first few big wins before the downwards spiral into losses, loss of control and devastation. The venues are there to make money. It can be a tough thing to realise that a machine or gambling itself can have such a strong hold over us in the beginning and the first thing to focus on is thinking about what you value in your life and how you are feeling right now as opposed as how you want to feel. Reading other peoples stories helped me heaps initially.

Good luck Popeye and to all

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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby POPEYE » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:28 pm

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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby AnnaB (facilitator) » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:47 pm

Popeye (5/04/2013)Thanks Chris2 I really enjoyed reading your posts and it was great to hear from someone who has been successful in stopping for 6 months. I just wanted to let you know I self excluded from the venues for 2 years, so I am unsure as to why you were only able to for 3 months? You might want to look into that. I can totally relate to your posts, keep in touch and let us know how your going. Keep strong.

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Hi Popeye,
It's great to have such an active member in the community, particularly as you've recently become a new parent! ... I thought I would write a quick post about self-exclusion. There are some differences from state to state, territory to territory in how the programs are run and periods of time available which may account for the difference in experience. To further complicate things, casinos also differ from hotels and clubs within and across states and territories as well as TABs and online options too. As ever it would be great to hear from members about their experiences in different states.


If people have more general/service provision type questions just let me know and I can post more info here or feel free to email or PM.

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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby doug » Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:53 pm

Keep up with all your challenges friends.

I am doing ok for the most part.

Bored at times,but not down on myself like when i was gambling. :w00t:
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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby Jason2 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:04 am

I self excluded from the Crown when I realised that I'd totally lost control. That was back in 2006 when I was playing blackjack. Winning $46k in a 15 hour marathon, only to lose it over the course of 3 days and probably about $10k. And this was just before I was due to go overseas for a holiday. What a bummer that was. Broke and travelling is not a good combination (and no it was not a working holiday!). During that period, there was lots of self-resentment, though I masked it well enough to not raise any questions from those I was visiting.

What I found effective was the fact that self exclusion REMOVES the choice of to a venue. And if you're the kind of person who is law-abiding, diligent and pays attention to details (all those good things), then having a formal contract to REMOVE the option means you actually don't have a problem of going there anymore. I was sort of that person, but of course, I picked up online poker instead! *rolls eyes*

It doesn't work for everybody of course. It is most effective if your own values facilitates that exclusion. That you wouldn't want to test it, or (realistically) you'd be embarrassed to test it or didn't want to risk the slim (but probably very likely for you given your bad luck) chance of that horrifying tap on the shoulder and the undignified walk of shame with security or management escort.

NB: Self exclusion didn't work for me as 6 years later, when I applied for a job at Crown, I had passed all the tests and interviews with flying colour, only to discover that I hadn't been offered the job as the exclusion is permanent and I'd have to actively get a counsellor to support my petition for removal, which (ironically) is at the discretion and pleasure of Crown.

Another footnote: So I started seeing a counsellor just to get myself off it. Of course, she strongly advised against it and said she can't support it because there's no way I would immediately self-exclude once I found another job 6 months down the track. But with that missed opportunity, I landed another job which paid nearly twice as much, without night shift hour about a month afterwards. So now, my goal is to ensure not a cent earned from this this new job goes towards Crown or online poker!
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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby POPEYE » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:41 am

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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby Angelina. » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:29 pm

Hi Popeye,

Yes, indeed there are programs! I am not an expert in this area, but there are a few software products that we refer clients to.

*The most popular one is 'GamBlock' which is $99 for a year. This is an international product that blocks all gambling sites. Is is for Microsoft windows.

*'Betfilter' is another. There is a free trial available. It is for Microsoft windows. This is an international product that blocks all gambling sites. They also have an app for Iphone and Ipad, but this does not block gambling sites. Apparently this can also work for apple mac, but I cannot substantiate this claim.

*'Optenet' is another. There is a free trial available. It is for Microsoft windows. This is a European developed product that blocks all gambling sites.

*K9 Web Protection. This is a general web blocking agent that includes gambling sites. It is available for MacOS, Android, Iphone, Ipad, Ipod, Windows; and has a free trial available.

Hope this helps

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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby Loui » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:54 pm

Hi JasonI am an older woman (over 70) and have lost my own home, and lost heaps of money in the bank. Now I live in a retirement village where I pay rent. It is not upmarket and it is run by the Church. There was an ingoing of $35000 in 2008 and Thank God I used it. I am legally 2 years bankrupt.
I am used to having beautiful homes, swimming pool, the works! I ran my own businesses and was successful. The losses were insidious in my case 100 here 200 there, but boy it adds up.

Just treat every day as Day 1. Keep yourself very busy with activities as well as work. Have a glass of warm milk before going to bed, and when you are not going out to an activity, change into your night clothes, relax and set yourself up for an early night at home.

There is a website that sells Doonas made into Jacket and Pants and you can lounge around at home and do not even need to turn heating on. So you can stay home and be really comfy. When you do go out, be with friends and colleagues and do an activity which takes up all your off work hours - then home to bed afterwards . do not go to gambling because you are tired and exhausted and subconsciously thinking the gambling will give you hyped up energy. Not good for your heart health either.

Does this help?
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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby POPEYE » Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:19 pm

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RE: give self-exclusion a go...it worked for me

Postby ansert » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:53 pm

Hmmm I stopped getting notifications some time this week, not sure why :ermm: Anyhow I've missed these posts, thanks for your story Loui, it is definitely a warning!

Also thanks to you Jason, the more stories we hear the better we feel about our decision to stop
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